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I got a Lucid Ice from a friend when I started and got another from the Trilogy Challenge. Both have easily become my go to and I would highly recommend the Vandel to a new player looking for a reliable disc.
I recently realized that the lighter weight discs, even at speeds that are too much for me (Hello Captain!), improved my game quite a bit. I bought the Air Vandal when I found out what the 2023 Trilogy Challenge discs were going to be. After only throwing the lighter version for a few rounds, I have seen that I'm able to get the same distances as the higher speed discs, but with a lot more control. The Vandal is flying straight for me with a little turn and not too much fade at the end. I've gotten close on holes that I was always either going deep in the woods to the right or left and tree kicks were deadly. This, as a 9 speed is more in my arm speed and I can control my angles much better. The Lucid Air Vandal has quickly become one of my most used discs.