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The sword in VIP air plastic between 155-159g is great for the beginner intermediate player stepping up to distance drivers. This disc flies great with my slower arm, I'm able to control it and throw it pretty straight. At this weight I can get the full shaped flight out oof it without it fading too hard and early, which happens to me with heavier distance Drivers. I imagine with more power this disc would flip and turnover but for that beginner to intermediate player without a ton of power yet this disc provide easy controllable distance.